Kim Davis, (one mean looking, nasty, evil psychotic bitch) a former Kentucky county clerk who was jailed after refusing to file marriage licenses for same-sex couples, is hoping to overturn the Obergefell v. Hodges decision.
This is the same religious fundamentalist nutjob that lost numerous court cases years ago after denying gay people marriage licenses. She, and others, simply can not grasp that their religious ideology does not rule over the United States and the populace. You know who does that? Islamists, ISIS, The Taliban and other theocratic countries/states/groups run by religious rule, and not democracy.
And yes, it is based solely on their religious belief. Gay people marry, adopt, raise kids, work, pay taxes, are in the military, are in politics, and a myriad of other examples, and there is zero, none, no....detriment to society...their false claims in that regard are obvious and have been proven false, again and again and again and again. They want to claim those spurious accusations to pretend its not about their religion, but have no evidence to back it up, they have failed miserably, but just keep right on trying.
The 1st line of the 1st sentence of the 1st Amendment states:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
Meaning, obviously, you can't rule the United Stated based on your religion, regardless of what that religion is. The Founding Fathers felt it was so important that they wrote and placed it as...the 1st line of the 1st sentence of the 1st Amendment. It's not buried deep within the Constitution, its not the 28th Amendment (there are only 27 Amendments) its the 1st line of the 1st sentence of the 1st Amendment.
Un-patriotic religious morons suck donkey balls. Why can't they just live and let live and mind their own business? No gay people are hurting or bothering them...period. They are obsessed with other peoples genital's and sex lives and simply can not stand that some people have more and better sex then they do, and while claiming to be patriotic, always waving the flag and all that, are hellbent on creating a fascist theocracy, which is everything that patriotic Americans do NOT want. Fuck them. :)
Very well said Vanessa. The trouble now is will the court side with her? It is dominated by right wing judges and nothing would now surprise me about America's slide towards authoritarianism whatever the much vaunted constitution might or might not say. Scary times.
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Anything *could* happen of course Poppet, but I think there is a point where even conservatives realize the potential for civil strife, riots and civil war is increasing if they don't follow the law. We're at nearly 250 years of democracy and they themselves don't want that to end...just for a few braindead religious freaks and that unpatriotic cowardly bitch known as Trump. Or maybe I'm just being naïve and optimistic. :)
DeleteI would be shocked if the SCOTUS even hears the case. They have 7000-8000 writs filed each year. They will hear less than 2%.
DeleteReally, to make an appeal just takes money. To get heard is very hard, and I don't think they have a chance to be heard.
Valid points made Fiona. Plus, SCOTUS "works" about 15 days a year or something, lol. I wish these people would just get their own lives and leave people alone. But then I guess with many of them, their jobs, income, status, attention, etc...is tied to these types of agendas so...that *is* their life, as pathetic as that is. :)
DeleteYes, well, Vanessa, Poppet is a Brit, so I wanted to be sure he knew asking SCOTUS is a longshot, more likely a virtue signaling than anything else.
DeleteBut HIS highest court saying even post surgical transwomen are still men.... that's worse than I would even expect from ours.
Poppet is indeed a Brit...and I've never held that against him. 🤣
DeleteYep a Brit but one who sadly, along with many others here and across Europe will no longer travel to the USA for pleasure or work. i think that the much vaunted 'Constitution' that is so at the mercy of politically elected judges and which recently saw no issue at all with rolling back women's reproductive rights and which puts religion before science and has decided that someone can literally be above the law, namely the President, is not much of a bulwark against authoritarianism, which is what the USA is fast descending towards.
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DeleteAfter what your court said about postops not being women this year, I don't know you're really any better. Before that, yes, you had a case. I know of at least two postops there that are4 thinking of emigrating (to Ireland and Malta)
My comment was about the US Supreme Court and the USA
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Oh, I get that. I am just saying a couple years ago you could have said your side was much better. No longer
Deleterespectfully, the court has not said it will take the case. she's filed a writ. it has not been granted.
ReplyDelete100% accurate. I'd actually prefer it goes to SCOTUS to put them on the spot, so the whole world can see what they'd do. If they sided with the "fundies" does that open avenues to deny interracial marriage? Would people then want to reverse voting rights, women's right, suffrage...you see my point. Tired of this, put them on the spot and let it be decided once and for all...though it already has been. Equal rights means "equal" not just "equal" according to what the religious right perceives as being "biblical". :)
DeleteDear miss Chaland. The solution to these same-sex marriages is very simple, actually.
ReplyDeleteIf these biggots have a problem with same sex marriages, they should simply say 'no, thank you', when proposed by a same gender and leave it to that.
That would be a great start of the day.
BTW: 'religion was invented when the first conman found the first idiot'.
Kind regards,
Marco (from Lady Lindsay).
Well stated Marco. :)
Deleteactually I had put up a "compromise" that will piss both sides off (which I love).
DeleteA marriage is a religious rite performed by a religion. They can say it must be a man and a woman. The state will NOT perform marriages, you must go to your local church, temple, mosque, etc.
The STATE will perform civil unions between any two, competent, single adults. These unions, under law, will get the same benefits (tax filings, immunity against testifying against a partner, etc.) that marriage does. Makes marriage essentially just a religiously blessed civil union.
The Right screams the unions get the same rights as marriage. The Left screams it is not CALLED a marriage.
Fiona laughs at both extremes. Fiona is twisted.
Personally, if I ever find the right person, they can call me their husband, or call me their wife, so long as they call me theirs.
Dear Fiano. Well, actually a marriage is exactly that. A writ of paper that confirms the bound between two people that their belongings are to be seen as 'one'.
DeleteBasically, 'love' has no place in this writ of paper.
Of course, people go into marriage, because of love.
They take that love so far, that they are confirming to the state, to the world, to 'god', that they are to be seen as 'one'.
We should not give the religious biggots a foot between the door by having them dictating which adults can marry and which can not.
It's a direct contradiction of Euclides first axiom, a violation of civil rights and it's a breach of the separation of church and state.
So, don't compromise.
(I like your avatar. Nylons are always a good turn-on for me).
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Marco (from Lady Lindsay).
>We should not give the religious biggots a foot between the door by having them dictating which adults can marry and which can not.
ReplyDeleteI just give them their word. Legally, they get no more than the word. And sometimes giving someone just a taste of something is worse than denying them it entirely. And as I said, the civil union gives anyone the same rights
>(I like your avatar. Nylons are always a good turn-on for me).
Thank you, honey. actually it's a bodystocking. Toes to shoulders, and long sleeves. Stretchy. I like them. Though not in this weather.